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10 شباط، 2007

"Jordan Blog" a case of censorship?

Last couple a weeks I noticed that my blog is abscent from Jordan Blogs
website. I gave it sometime, then I contacted the blog's manager. Here is his response to my inquiry:

"Salam Mr Kanaan,

I have enlisted you back, then we had our first meeting and we have decided that there should be few blogs taken off the list to escape any legal liability, while some of us rejected this idea and were against censorship, the other party explained it is not against anyone's ideas or way of thinking, it is merely to stay out of trouble, specially those who live in Jordan. And we decided to treat each blog case by case, so we voted on each case separately and yours did not make the cut. I'm deeply sorry to inform you that your blog has been taken off the list, and while we have nothing against your Mr. Kanaan or your blog we just want to escape any liabilities that we can avoid. I hope you understand and I'm sorry again.

Khaled


Aggregator: http://jordanblogs.net"

لا اعرف بالضبط ما هي معايير الشباب المسؤولين عن هذا الموقع وما الذي دفعهم لمثل هذا التقييم. لكن من الواضح انه بالنسبة لأطراف المشروع المقيمين في الأردن فإن ثمة مخاطرة فعلية ما، إن لم تكن قد حصلت بالفعل، من ابقاء موقعي هذا على قائمة روابط موقعهم المذكور. وهم ادرى بتقييم هذه المخاطر وكيفية تداركها إذا كان بالفعل ما اكتبه اوانقله قد يجلب لهم المتاعب. وانا هنا لا احاول ان ابرر اواتلمس لهم العذر في قرارهم فهم اولا واخيرا مسؤولين عنه، وأنا لا اقر مثل هذا الإجراء وخصوصا تحت المبررات التي ذكروها، وادعوهم إلى الكشف عما اذا كانوا قد تعرضوا لأي من المتاعب والمضايقات الأمنية بسبب نقل اوعرض ما تحويه مدونتي. فليس مقبولا التساوق مع آلة القمع فنبدأ بقمع بعضنا بعضا.

يبقي ان هذا الإجراء بالمبررات التي اوردها اصحابه يبرهن على صدقية ما اكتبه عن اجواء القمع في الأردن ومما تنشره هيئات ومنظمات حقوق الإنسان في الأردن والعالم. فحجب مدونتي من هذا الموقع لم يتم لخلاف بالرأي معي، لو كان الأمر كذلك لما استحق التعليق، فمن حقهم ان لا يروجوا لآراء غير مقتنعين بها وخصوصا وان قرارهم هذا لن يغلق مدونتـي، وإن كان قد اغلق امامها نافذة هامة للتواصل مع جمهور معني مباشرة بالأردن. إنما هذا الحجب تم تحديدا كما وصفه مسؤول الموقع اعلاه: من وجود مخاطر على الأعضاء المقيمين في الأردن من استمرار استضافة مدونتي على موقعهم. انني ادعوا للتضامن مع اصحاب المدونات في الأردن في المطالبة بحقهم في التعبير عن ارائهم بأي شكل يروه مناسبا وتجاه اي قضية من القضايا.

إن اسوأ ما في القمع هو قدرته على التسرب إلى نفوس المقموعين، بل إن اهم آليات بقاءه يستقرضها ببلاش من آليات القمع الموجودة في المجتمع الذي لا ينأى يهيمن عليه. إنه يوم اسود للحرية وللصراع الديمقراطي في بلدنا عندما تضطر ثلة من الشباب من ذوي المعرفة والهمم العالية والذين يسعون لخلق مساحة من الحوار الجاد لصالح بلدهم ان تثلم هممهم وأن يدون في سجلها مثل هذه المحطة المذلة. ويبقى الباب مفتوح امامهم للعودة عن موقفهم، والعود احمد.ه

بالنسبة لي فهذه علامة فارقة في عمر مدونتي الصغير نسبيا. ومؤشر على اهمية وصدقية ما اكتب. ويضع على اعباء حقيقية يجب ان اسعى لآن اكون على قدرها وان اقدم نحوها ما استطيع من التعليق والكتابة. لآنه الأمر على ما يبدو ليس فقط حكي بل وحكي مدفوع ردّه..اول عتالي.

بإنتظار ملاحظاتكم، كما ارجو من زوار مدونتي الكرام الكتابة للموقع اعلاه والإستفسار عن مثل هذا الموقف وتداعياته.ه

هناك 143 تعليقًا:

Jad يقول...

آله قمع ؟
لول
اه والله شفتها بالشارع هظاك اليوم و قلت يمكن الية نقل اشمنت لشركة المناصير, بس والله ما ميزت انها اله قمع, يا مقموع يا انتا

عن جد, شر البليه ما يضحك

يعني انتا من النوع الي يضخم الامور بشكل كبير, يعني ممكن اذا بتشم ريحة ظراط تقول فقعع مفاعل نووي لول

Jad يقول...

آله قمع ؟
لول
اه والله شفتها بالشارع هظاك اليوم و قلت يمكن الية نقل اشمنت لشركة المناصير, بس والله ما ميزت انها اله قمع, يا مقموع يا انتا

عن جد, شر البليه ما يضحك

يعني انتا من النوع الي يضخم الامور بشكل كبير, يعني ممكن اذا بتشم ريحة ظراط تقول فقعع مفاعل نووي لول

خضر كنعان يقول...

يا خي شو خفة هالدم هاي؟ ومنوين محوشها؟ يعني اذا فيه شغلة رح تعثرك بحياتك رح تكون هالمدعوقة "خفة الدم" تبعتك، يا ريت لو بتشوف من عندي هيك لما قريتها قديش شفقت عليك، شفقت وتلعيت..اشي بلعي فعلا يا جاد. كيف متعايش مع هيك حالة، اكيد متغلب والناس ما بطيقك ودايما مستغرب منشو، صح؟ ه هلا هايتني بخبرك ويا ريت تستفيد، بلاها خفة الدم تبعتك وركز على اللي بتعرف فيه، خليك فيه لفترة بعدين بلكي بلش يطلع معك نتائج، بس برضه فرشي سنانك قبل وبعد..

خضر كنعان يقول...

ما تنسى تمر بين فترة والثانية نكشف عليك، الكشفية والمراجعة بلاش مثل ما انت شايف، الا ما تستفيد،

OmAr يقول...

I'm absolutely shocked to hear this Khader, I just wrote a post concerning that, http://me-in-jordan.blogspot.com/2007/02/what-is-going-on-with-jordanblogs.html

Jad يقول...

هاها
يا اخي, طيب اذا انا سخيف لازم انتا تكون سخيف مثلي؟

يعني انا كنت متوقع انك تجاوب و تقنع و تحكي كلام منطقي مش مجرد رد شخصي

بعدين, انتا ليش مش عم تقبل النقد؟ حتى لو كان نقد ساخر؟ لش عم تقمعني و عم تقمع حريتي بنقد كتاباتك؟

حرام! والله لاشيك للامينستي انترناشونال

خضر كنعان يقول...

الأخ عمر: للتو فرغت من قراءة مقالك عن موضوع حجب شؤون اردنية من موقع المدونات الأردنية. ان مقالتك فيها من التلقائية والصدق ما فيها من الجرأة التي احنى لها هامتي.
إنه بحق تحليل وموقف هائل من قبلك. اتمنى على اسرة موقع المدونات الأردنية ان تتفهم عمقه ومعانية ويتخطوا هذه الهفوة

تحياتي مرة اخرى لك يا عمر صديقا وصادقا

aya almusa يقول...

غريب والله ما بصير هالحكي ! أولا مدونتك صريحة و صادقة و أحترمها جدا و تانيا شكرا لعمر اللي لفت انتباهنا كمان و تالتا ولا يهمك مدونتك بتقرأها أول بأول .
انا والله مش فاهمة الناس ليش بتحبش الصراحة يعني الواحد يا يكون مسيح جوخ يا ما يكتب ؟!

تيتو يقول...

معلش يا خضر بدك تعذر جاد هاي المصطلحات كبيرة عليه شوي وإذا ما إلها دخل بالضراط ما بيقدر يفهمها.

Abdullah يقول...

اذا اتتك مذمة من ناقص فهي الشهادة لك بانك كامل لانهم بدهم احافظ على مستوى التفاهة عندهم شالوك يا عمي شو بدك بمسحين الجوخ هذول. يعني ناقضوا فكرة المدونات ال هي الحرية الراي و اخذ الحقائق بدون النفاق الي بنقرا بصحف الزفت اليومية, ابشر يا طيب رح انظلنا نقرالك او هي add to favourites

ناقص يقول...

Dear Khader, you are of course correct in that this how repression in dictatorial regimes works, i.e. by freighting citizens into self-censorship. No such regime could pursue every indignant citizen, the mere threat made clear by a few examples (Toujan Faisal, Laith Shbilat, the Ikhwan MP’s, etc.) would do the job. However, it is exactly for that reason that I think you’re being too harsh and unsympathetic to Khalid. It doesn’t matter whether he was issued a “friendly warning” or not; he and the others who run the aggregator are worried, and for a good reason. I followed Omar’s link, and from there the links to some of the discussants and found this guy, Batir, making the claim that you are using a pseudonym (”Khader is an anonymous blogger whose Arabic blog is centered around Jordanian politics.” http://www.jordanwatch.net/archive/2007/2/156764.html). If that’s case, you really can’t be preaching to Khaled and the others on moral courage while hiding behind a pen name. If that’s not the case, then you should correct this Batir guy. If that’s the case, but no body is supposed to know, then you should worry how this guy got his information. Best of luck.

Zayed يقول...

Well Khadder, maybe something useful can be made of this. As a first step we need to learn a little bit about the Jordanian laws and how they apply to blogs. Could anyone find a link to the law itself or discussions about it? Apparently, articles 150 and 195 of the penal code the most relevant.

To get us started here are some bits and pieces I found on the internet:

The notorious 1998 law:
“On September 1, 1998 the draconian Press and Publication Law took effect, restricting press freedom in a variety of ways. The broad language of this new legislation has been criticized by journalists and human rights activists in Jordan and overseas. Article 2, which defines "publication" as "any media in which meanings, words, or ideas are expressed in any way," could easily be interpreted to apply to online publications, although authorities have not to our knowledge explicitly stated this to be the case. Features of the new law that restrict free expression include requirements that:
• private non-daily publications secure a minimum capital of 100,000 Jordanian dinars (about U.S.$140,000); dailies must have a minimum capital of 500,000 dinars within a three-month period in order to publish, a sevenfold increase from the previous law (article 13);
• publications "refrain from publishing anything that conflicts with the principles of freedom, national responsibility, human rights and values of the Arab and Islamic nation" (article 5); and
• periodicals [which are also defined in a way that could include online publications] refrain from publishing any materials containing content deemed objectionable, including anything that "disparages the King and the Royal family...infringes on the judiciary or undermines its independence...[and that] encourages perversion or leads to moral corruption" (article 37).
Violations of article 37 make a periodical subject to fines of not less than 5,000 dinars (article 47) and possible court-ordered closure (article 50). As of May 1999, the Press and Publications Law had been invoked only once to suspend a print publication; its effect on online media remained unclear.” http://hrw.org/advocacy/internet/mena/jordan.htm

May it rest in peace:
“In mid-1999, the government proposed amendments to an unpopular press law that had banned 14 topics including criticism of the royal family or coverage of the armed forces. On September 6, 1999, Parliament went further and deleted the entire Article 37, which contained the restrictions. Journalists, however, can still be punished for various violations under other provisions of the penal code. Moreover on October 9, 2001, with parliament in recess, the government promulgated an amendment to the press law stipulating closure of publications that carry “false or libelous information that can undermine national unity or the country’s reputation.” It also bans articles that incite crimes, strikes, or threats to public order.” http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/23180.pdf

lèse majesté and sedition 195/150 (witchcraft, I guess, is legal):
“This month a civilian prosecutor and then a military prosecutor opened an investigation against Adnan Abu Odeh, a former head of the Royal Court, for allegedly insulting the king (lèse majesté) and stirring sectarian strife and sedition on the basis of remarks he made during a one-hour private interview aired on Al Jazeera satellite television on October 28. The prosecutors dropped these charges on November 5.

“This apparent tactic of initiating and later dropping charges has a chilling effect on regime critics,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, director of the Middle East and North Africa division at Human Rights Watch. “This shows that Jordan has far to go in becoming a country that respects freedom of expression and the rule of law.

The Jordanian government has made several public commitments to reform laws on which it frequently relied to silence critics or unpopular speech. In July 2005, senior government officials told Human Rights Watch that Jordan would suspend application of the controversial articles of the Penal Code, including Article 150, until the legislation could be reformed. In June 2006, the government assured Human Rights Watch in a private meeting of its continuing commitment to protect freedom of expression. Despite its assurance, the government has not repealed the controversial articles and continues to prosecute its critics. Human Rights Watch in 2006 has documented five cases, in addition to Abu Odeh’s, in which unjustified charges threatened freedom of expression.
On November 1, the civilian prosecutor summoned Abu Odeh. The next day he determined that the remarks could constitute the criminal offenses of “stirring up sectarian strife or sedition among the nation” and lèse majesté under articles 150 and 195 of the penal code respectively. Each offense carries a maximum term of three years in prison.” http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/11/07/jordan14529.htm

غير معرف يقول...

حبيبي خضر

عن اي قمع تتكلم؟

وبعدين انت برأيك مدونتك مستاهلة انو الاجهزة الحكومية تقمعها؟

يا حبيبي مدونتك تافهة وغير عقلانية

ما فيها غير الضراك والفصوص\

يعني انا ما بدافع هن الحكومة , والحكومة ممكن تقمع صحافة ومعارضة ,لكن لما تكون بتستاهل


وسلملي على الفصوص والضراط و كل بلاعات وجور الخرة ....

lèse majesté يقول...

Wouldn’t the application of article 150 clash with article 195? I mean who is responsible for “stirring sectarian strife” in Jordan and the region more than abu elhillal elshii’i?

غير معرف يقول...

obviously, those who sensor have no idea how the web works. Simply they helped spread your blog worldwide. congrats khader. you are already famous. They suck!

Jad ابو ظراط يقول...

Jad ابو ظراط instructs people leaving comments on his blog “to keep it clean” and moderates the comments to make sure they are to his liking, yet look at the comments he leaves at other peoples blogs.

Jad ابو ظراط keeps a cheesy blurb about freedom at the top of his blog, yet he attacks Khadder for complaining when his freedom of expression is infringed upon.


Jad ابو ظراط lists “Free as in Freedom” as his favorite book, fancies himself a crusader for free software, yet he isn’t bothered when the aggregator that lists his posts withdraws a political blog for fear of legal liability.


Jad ابو ظراط writes comments like “مفاعل نووي يعني ممكن اذا بتشم ريحة ظراط تقول فقعع”, yet he demands “يعني انا كنت متوقع انك تجاوب و تقنع و تحكي كلام منطقي مش مجرد رد شخصي” for it.

Jad ابو ظراط plausibly wrote the comment in which he asks for Khadder to “سلملي على الفصوص والضراط و كل بلاعات وجور الخرة”,

يبدو أنهم من معارفه او زوار مدونته

خضر كنعان يقول...

اهم ما في مسألة حجب مدونتي هو انه من كل المعلقين ثمة شبه اجماع على حرية التعبير بدون قيد اوشرط، وهذا مهم.
إلا انني في نفس الوقت اود ان أوكد انني اكن كل الإحترام للأخوة في تلك في مدونة الأردن على مجهودهم وللأخ خالد تحديدا على صراحته.
انا لا ازاود عليهم، فأنا اخترت ان اكتب باسم مستعار لأسباب عدة منها هذا الأمر - رغم ان مثل هذه الأمور قابلة للكشف الكترونيا، بس بعدين الها باب وجواب - لكنني لست في موقع لآن ابرر لهم قرارهم كما ذكرت ذلك في تعليقي على الموضوع. ما يهمني مما حدث اساسا هي الآليات التي يعمل ويتسرب فيها القمع، قمع السلطة، الى دواخلنا - بما فيهم كاتب هذه السطور واللي القمع ممكن مش بس يتسرب بل وقع ورح يوقع على راسه - وهو ما يشار له احيانا في الإعلام بـ"المقص الداخلي " بالطبع فالأليات هذه اعم واشمل وتعمل باتجاهات عدة ليس فقط من اعلى للأسفل بل ومن الأسفل ايضا.. لننظر كيف نعامل العمالة الأجنبية من منزلية واخرى في الأردن وانا اتحدث هنا ليس على المستوى الرسمي بل والشعبي من الطبقة الوسطى اذا شئت والتي تتوفر لهم فرص التحكم بهذه الشرائح من البشر.

فيما يخص الموقع فقط دعوتهم إلى عدم التبرع بمثل هذا الإجراء اذا لم يكن له مبرر، ودعوتهم للعودة عنه. وان يفصحوا اذا تم عليهم اي ضغوط امنية فعلية وقد اعلنت تضامني معهم ومع كل المدونات في حريتها للتعبير عن رأيها.

ارجوا ان لا يحشر الموضوع في مسؤولية اصحاب الموقع المذكور عما حدث. انا اهتمامي في الموضوع هو من جانب تداعيات القمع الموجود في الأردن والطرق التي تكمم بها الأفواه. هذا هو البعد الأساسي لهذه المشكلة من وجهة نظري.

انا من جهة مدونتي ليست مدونة اخبار، انا فقظ اناقش ما تعرضه الصحف ووسائل الاعلام من اخبار عن الأردن من وحهة مصالح المواطنين في الأردن والمنطقة العربية عموما كما اراها. كل ما اهدف له هو دائما ان افتح النقاش لا ان ادعى ان وجهة نظري صائبة اوخاطيئة. ان وضعنا الأقتصادي والإجتماعي والسياسي في غاية التعقيد ولا يمكن لآحد الإدعاء ان عنده حل سحري. ما اسعى اليه هو تقديم وجهة نظر او منظار قد يكون غائبا احيانا، وان يكون هذا المنظور جزء من النقاش وليس من المحرمات.
من حق الكل ان يفكر في مستقبل بلدنا ويناقش اراءه حول قضاياها ويعرضها بالشكل الذي يراه مناسبا.

في هذا الوقت الذي تتغير فيه دول وانظمة كاملة والتي تتهدد فيه ان تتغير خارطة المنطقة برمتها وتدخل فيها ، وبحسب تصريح الملك ذاته، بثلاث حروب اهلية على الأقل. هذه الأمور تحدث بنا وبالرغم منا هنا والآن كمواطنين . إن من الضروري بل من الواجب ان يفتح النقاش على كل شئ وبدون تحفظ. فلا يعقل ان يستمر هذا الخلل الفاضح في البلد في توزيع الثروة واستقطابها المستفحل لصالح قلة قليلة ولا الإستئثار بالقرار السياسي الحاصل في يد القصر تحديدا ، وحتى الخلل الديمقراطي على كافة المستويات بدون ان يتم وضعه على طاولة النقاش والبحث والتغيير. وإلا عما سنكتب ، عن شو؟!ه

elkanoon kanoon يقول...

This is from Omar's blog:

http://me-in-jordan.blogspot.com/2007/02/be-careful-this-is-not-joke.html

Unfortunately the link to his source doesn't seem to work

مادة (195)

يعاقب بالحبس من سنة إلى ثلاث سنوات كل من:

1. ثبتت جرأته بإطالة اللسان على جلالة الملك.

2. أرسل أو حمل غيره أن يرسل أو يوجه إلى جلالته أية رسالة خطية أو شفوية أو أية صورة أو رسم هزلي من شأنه المس بكرامة جلالته أو أن يضع تلك الرسالة أو الصورة أو الرسم بشكل يفيد المس بكرامة جلالته وكل من يذيع ما ذكر أو يعمل على إذاعته بين الناس.

3. يعاقب بالعقوبة نفسها إذا كان ما ذكر موجها ضد جلالة الملكة أو ولي العهد أو أحد أوصياء العرش أو أحد أعضاء هيئة النيابة.

مادة (190)

التحقير: هو كل تحقير أو سباب - غير الذم والقدح - يوجه إلى المعتدى عليه وجها لوجه بالكلام أو الحركات أو بكتابة أو رسم لم يجعلا علنيين أو بمخابرة برقية أو هاتفية أو بمعاملة غليظة

مادة (196)

يعاقب على التحقير:

1. بالحبس من أسبوعين إلى ستة أشهر أو بغرامة من خمسة دنانير إلى ثلاثين دينارا أو بكلتا هاتين العقوبتين معا إذا كان موجها إلى موظف أثناء قيامه بوظيفته أو من أجل ما أجراه بحكم الوظيفة.

2. وإذا كان الموظف المعتدى عليه بالتحقير أثناء قيامه بوظيفته أو من أجل ما أجراه بحكم الوظيفة ممن يمارسون السلطة العامة كانت العقوبة من شهر إلى سنة.

3. وإذا وقع التحقير بالكلام أو الحركات التهديدية على قاض في منصة القضاء كانت العقوبة من ثلاث أشهر إلى سنة

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1. كل من اعتدى على حياة جلالة الملك أو حريته، يعاقب بالإعدام.

2. كل من اعتدى على جلالة الملك اعتداء لا يهدد حياته، يعاقب بالأشغال الشاقة المؤبدة.

3. يعاقب بالعقوبات نفسها إذا كان الاعتداء على جلالة الملكة أو ولي العهد أو أحد أوصياء العرش.

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1. كل أردني يذيع في الخارج وهو على بينة من الأمر أنباء كاذبة أو مبالغ فيها من شأنها أن تنال من هيبة الدولة أو مكانتها، يعاقب بالحبس مدة لا تنقص عن ستة اشهر وبغرامة لا تزيد على خمسين دينارا.

2. يعاقب بالحبس مدة لا تقل عن سنة واحدة إذا كان ما ذكر موجها ضد جلالة الملك أو ولي العهد أو أحد أوصياء العرش.

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